13:02:26 #startmeeting 13:02:26 Meeting started Wed Dec 17 13:02:26 2014 UTC. The chair is alinefm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:02:26 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 13:02:27 #meetingname scrum 13:02:27 The meeting name has been set to 'scrum' 13:02:39 hi alinefm, do you celebrate Christmas in Braizil? 13:02:46 royce, yeap 13:03:04 Great! envy! 13:03:20 #info Agenda 1) Status 2) Open discussion 13:03:21 anything else? 13:03:27 royce, thanks! 13:03:58 Do we need to start next release? 13:04:47 royce, sure 13:05:27 I was planning to cover it during open discussion 13:06:30 OK, let's move~ 13:07:01 #topic Status 13:07:02 #info Please provide your status using the #info command: #info 13:07:04 #info YuXin Patches to fix 539/461 13:07:14 #info royce fixed image with unknown os probe problem, fixed ldap_admin_id absence problem, reviewed Simon's migration patch 13:07:22 #info wenwang sent patch of Chinese translation 13:07:40 #info alinefm sent patch to fix #463 and updated po files for 1.4 release 13:08:06 #info vianac opened Github issues; fixed issues #438, #504, #543; working on issues #526, #544; reviewed patches on the mailing list; added translation for pt_BR 13:09:38 #info wenwang sent patch that fix bug#527 Reverting a snapshot doesn't change the initial state of the dialog "Edit Guest" 13:10:24 wenwang, I received your patch with the Chinese translations but I couldn't send it to ML as a problem in my imap server 13:10:37 I am wondering if I can apply the email directly 13:10:41 royce, vianac ^ 13:11:03 s/email/patch 13:11:03 I have a problem with my imap too, just apply it alinefm 13:11:32 thanks, royce 13:12:02 alinefm: Thanks alinefm, please try it again before you go home. If you couldn't send it, I will try to sent it tomorrow 13:12:29 so I will do everything need for the 1.4 release: create tag, packages, update web page, etc... 13:12:43 I hope to send the announcement email by Friday morning \o/ 13:13:21 I was having my system reinstall to RHEL 6.5 today because ITCS3000 does not support ubuntu 14.10, so haven't tried wenwang's patch yet:( 13:13:30 Sounds great! thanks alinefm 13:14:17 I want to thank everyone for the great work done in the last months that allow we release 1.4 with high quality 13:14:58 We must thank you! alinefm 13:16:04 =) 13:16:15 so let's move on to open discussion 13:17:03 #topic Open Discussion 13:17:17 So now it is time to start thinking about the next release 13:17:54 As we have a lot of bugs and enhancements open I'd suggest to make a stabilization release (1.4.1 ) to try to close as much as we can 13:18:13 of course we can also investigate new enhancements to do among those already open 13:18:32 I also think in let the UI guys free to devel the new UI 13:19:01 so I'd create a new branch to get the new UI patches applied and once we have everything done we merge into merge to 1.5 release 13:19:07 good, there is nearly no UI bugs left 13:19:41 YuXin, yeap and I'd say to keep them there and devel the new UI 13:19:47 sounds great 13:20:00 ok 13:20:13 YuXin, wenwang, so you two will be only focus on new UI during 1.4.1 devel phase 13:20:22 ok 13:20:24 ok 13:20:30 and once 1.4.1 is released, we announce the new UI for 1.5 (end of June) 13:20:40 ok 13:20:40 YuXin, wenwang sounds good? 13:20:45 yes 13:20:49 yes 13:21:30 royce, vianac, and we focus on backend enhancements and bug fixes 13:21:41 ack 13:22:10 I also want to do a refactor in your tests as we have a new mockmodel seems many tests are redundant 13:22:32 we could create a test file per resource: test_vms.py, test_templates.py, test_networks.py etc 13:22:49 and only create separated mock tests when mockmodel differs from model 13:22:54 OK 13:22:57 royce, vianac what do you think? 13:23:25 do we still do rest test? 13:23:26 alinefm, I think it would be good to start something with automated WUI tests as well, as soon as YuXin and wenwang were able to develop some of the new interface. 13:23:41 lagarcia, yeap - it was my next point 13:23:42 =) 13:23:45 :D 13:24:00 royce, yeap - I think we could do all tests using the rest api 13:24:13 alinefm, sure, I agree we should do that. it's very confusing to know which file a test should go to now 13:24:14 as it is the way we use 13:25:06 and as lagarcia pointed out we need some automated tests for WUI too 13:25:31 so as the new UI will be delivering we create tests for it 13:25:48 I only know about Selenium framework to do that 13:25:58 so I am completely open for suggestions 13:26:19 I heard about some framework which has integration with different browsers so we could do test on them 13:26:25 but I need to search more about it 13:26:26 selenium is good, I know many people are using it 13:27:02 alinefm, YuXin I have only heard about Selenium.... 13:27:09 but I am far from an expert on the area :) 13:27:21 but I am not sure whether it support screen recording 13:27:44 YuXin, I *think* it has 13:28:03 if it does, then it is quite simple. 13:28:10 when I used selenium (some years ago) I used a firefox plugin to record the test in a XML format 13:28:34 when an error occurred I could see the screen result 13:28:34 just launch it and go thorugh kimchi UI 13:28:43 I mean, like a screenshot of the error 13:29:33 I mean if the automation scripts can be generated by go through kimchi UI, then it will be quite easy 13:29:49 let me check 13:29:51 yeap 13:29:55 ok 13:30:08 we just need to make sure the HTML elements has a unique ID 13:30:12 if it selenium support this, I think it is ok 13:30:21 YuXin, we could ensure it when doing the new UI 13:30:33 I think we should write the script ourselves 13:30:41 probably 13:31:13 I believe it will not only support ID, should have multiple ways to identify elements, like css 13:31:35 yes 13:31:43 id = element identifier 13:31:52 wenwang, you can write script, which will make the test scripts more modulized 13:32:15 YuXin: okay. I can do that 13:32:17 modularized 13:32:31 YuXin, wenwang, the firefox plugin is only to make it easier to do 13:33:11 if by screen-recording, it will be fast, but each time new UI is added, need to screen-recording again 13:33:59 both are ok I think 13:34:13 for me too 13:34:29 I am okay with both too 13:35:22 great! 13:36:03 I will think about the dates for 1.4.1 release but it should be announce on March 27th 13:36:50 any more ideas/topics for the next release? 13:39:45 ok... 13:40:04 so feel free to sent ideas to kimchi ML 13:40:37 I think we already have a good start point in https://github.com/kimchi-project/kimchi/issues 13:40:46 sure 13:40:56 and also the upload feature! =) 13:40:57 OK 13:41:11 we should change it to receive the file part by part 13:41:24 I will take care of it 13:41:32 thanks royce 13:41:38 :) 13:41:40 anything else for today? 13:41:49 I've already talked a lot =) 13:42:02 I will help royce with the front-end 13:42:16 thanks wenwang 13:42:21 yw 13:43:06 wenwang, no - focus on new UI =) 13:43:13 alinefm, yes! 13:43:23 royce, I can help you on UI part if needed 13:43:23 where we'll celebrate 1.4? 13:43:28 :-P 13:43:58 alinefm: ok 13:44:13 pvital, good question! =) 13:44:22 OK, heh, how long will you be on vacation during Xmas BTW? 13:44:29 we need to do a virtual party 13:44:36 royce, well remembered! 13:44:54 the next 2 weeks I will need to move this meeting to Tuesday due the holidays 13:44:54 hahahah, great! 13:45:02 alinefm, I'll be in Campinas on 26/dec 13:45:05 :-P 13:45:22 vianac, royce, wenwang, YuXin, any problem for you? 13:45:31 I'm OK with it 13:45:43 no problem 13:45:50 I will properly send a note to ML to make sure everyone is aware of it 13:45:58 yes 13:46:05 I am okay with it 13:46:36 royce, wenwang YuXin, vianac, I will be out only Dec 24-25 and Dec 31 - Jan 02 13:47:26 alinefm: Ok 13:47:32 Not a long holiday, :) 13:47:56 In spring festival we usually leave for half month:D 13:48:12 wow! 13:48:14 royce, and you were envy about xmas :P 13:48:16 when is it? 13:48:24 enjoy your holiday alinefm 13:48:41 heh, lagarcia, I thought your will be longer, but it turns out... 13:48:50 alinefm, in Feb this year 13:48:51 It's Feb. 18th -25 this year 13:49:30 We have seven day national holiday and the whole country do not work\O/ 13:50:15 and we can ask for some more days leave in addition to that 13:50:52 that is grea!T 13:51:35 yes! 13:52:01 spring festival and national day are busy time for retail and distribution guys 13:52:29 but it is still long so now we hope we can still celeberate Xmas 13:53:09 hehehe 13:53:43 I dont think we have much more for today 13:53:50 so thanks everyone for joining! 13:54:12 bye guys~ 13:54:22 #endmeeting